A Presentation on the theme of Life After Death

Precis: Song: Nobody dies; A Definition of Life; Scientific Proofs; Quantum Holography; Life as energy and Radiation; The Spirit of John Lennon, Jesus, Krishna, Aunt Madge...Living Letters, a demonstration. Near Death Experiences; Visions and Dreams; Why are Children taken into the Next World so early?? Do we return?; Transhumanism (a new movement); The Nature of the Next World; Bahai Buriel; The big Debate.

Baha’u’llah: Wert thou to attain to but a dewdrop of the crystal waters of divine knowledge, thou wouldst readily realise that true life is not the life of the flesh but the life of the spirit. For the life of the flesh is common to both men and animals, whereas the life of the spirit is possessed only by the pure in heart who have quaffed from the ocean of faith and partaken of the fruit of certitude. This life knoweth no death, and this existence is crowned by immortality.

RUMI: My soul is from elsewhere, I'm sure of that, and I intend to end up there.

Abdul Baha: To consider that after the death of the body the spirit perishes, is like imagining that a bird in a cage will be destroyed if the cage is broken, though the bird has nothing to fear from the destruction of the cage. Our body is like the cage, and the spirit is like the bird … if the cage becomes broken, the bird will continue and exist: its feelings will be even more powerful, its perceptions greater, and its happiness increased.

Can we define Life Before we can say whether or not it continues…can we say what life is??. 

Descartes: I think therefore I am.

*ENERGY: The Scientific principle and Law of the conservation of ENERGY. *

Is it movement?…not entirely because the wind moves the ocean moves and although it has a physical existence and vibration or wave, compared to a person there is no Life..

So we need to focus on Human life...what defines Human Life....a plant lives an animal lives, a flame lives whilst it is burning...when the flame stops burning has it ceased to exist or in fact has its energy been converted into another form. Heat and light continue to radiate..the heat appears to weaken and vanish because it is dissipated over a wide area but the heat continues...so the energy of the flame combines with all that is.

The atoms of a Human Being continue to exist after the person has passed on.

The heat and energy of the candle It has gone to a place we can't see. The visual spectrum of entire spectrum of Electro Magnetic Radiation is very small.

So the proof of the existence of energy is measured by the effect it has. Not by whether or not we can see or touch it it.

Love as energy So we know that love is a power because we see its effects, but can we physically touch it...no we can not!  You cannot have a lump of love or a cup of love because its is not part of the physical realm. So we can see that in physics all energy continues to exist but changes its form.

The Human Spirit as energy We know that the individual human spirit exists...we can see its effect…does it cease to exist when the body loses its physical life?

Is the spirit of John Lennon still alive??? Is the spirit of Shakespeare still alive??? Is the spirit of Mozart still alive??? Is the spirit of Nelson Mandela still alive??? Is the spirit of Jesus still alive??? Is the spirit of Moses and Buddha still alive??? Is the spirit of Baha’u'llah still alive???

In fact it can be seen that a persons spiritual existence is heightened after their physical death.

So this power we call the individual human spirit...it is not a physical lump and does not exist in time and space and yet it is an energy associated with the human body of the individual.

So what continues of us...certainly our good deeds our light our energy...that which defines us.

If we conjure up a thought or impression of a loved one whilst they are not here what is it that we see and feel.

If you dream of a loved one you sense their very essence and yet they are not physically with you. And so it is when they physically pass...something remains with us....so they are not completely extinguished.

And the greater energy and or light and good deeds that person radiates the more we feel their presence even when they leave us physically.

Can one person change the world with the energy of their Human Spirit…YES!

Radiation Radiation is the word....heat and light is radiated from a source.

How often do we say a certain person radiates love, wisdom and light...what do we mean...we can not see or touch it yet still we feel it, and we know it exists because we detect its effect.

And according to all scientific and philosophical wisdom...radiated energy can not be destroyed.  This is both a Physical and a Spiritual LAW.

Jesus: Love will never come to an end.

LETTERS OF THE LIVING...living letters: a physical demonstration of life after the dissolution of the body. Jesus: I am the Alpha and the Omega!

Paul: II Cor 3:2-3 It is clear that you are a letter from Christ, the result of our ministry, written not with ink but with the Spirit of the living God, not on tablets of stone but on tablets of human hearts.

The Life and Works of Jesus have been radiated to us down the centuries by the medium of letters and words. We refer to the Living Word. The Living Letters. The Word that is life. Many great lives have been depicted to us in words and from those words we sense the Spirit of the individual. And of course that Spirit is indestructible.

If we represent a human life by a pool or indeed an ocean of random letters and then bring some of those letters to life by scooping them up and arranging them in a perfect order…in the same fashion physical elements at the point of conception are arranged in such a perfect order that they mysteriously attract life to the embryo...a magical thing happens!

A life is attracted to the letters and we can witness life radiating from them…

Here is a small section of our ocean of letters…


Lets give life to a handful of them...

let your heart burn with loving kindness for all who may cross your path

If we scatter the letters back into the pool....although the physical representation has been destroyed...the spirit of what we saw and heard and felt remains. Even more so as what we have constructed here is a statement by Abdul Baha and therefore is the Creative Word of God.

And so it is with each and every one of us.

How sacred and of great import is this Human Life with which we have been gifted…and how eager we must be to radiate good deeds of love and wisdom so that we may give to the vast ocean that is the Human Spirit and be a wave thereof.

The Nature of existence in the Eternal realms Baha’u’llah: Know thou of a truth that the soul, after its separation from the body, will continue to progress until it attaineth the presence of God...If any man be told that which hath been ordained for such a soul in the worlds of God...his whole being will instantly blaze out in his great longing to attain that most exalted, that sanctified and resplendent station…. The nature of the soul after death can never be described, nor is it meet and permissible to reveal its whole character to the eyes of men...The light which these souls radiate is responsible for the progress of the world and the advancement of its peoples. They are like unto leaven which leaveneth the world of being, and constitute the animating force through which the arts and wonders of the world are made manifest…The world beyond is as different from this world as this world is different from that of the child while still in the womb of its mother.

Baha'u'llah: If any man be told that which hath been ordained for such a soul in the worlds of God, the Lord of the throne on high and of earth below, his whole being will instantly blaze out in his great longing to attain that most exalted, that sanctified and resplendent station.

Baha'u'llah: It is clear and evident that all men shall, after their physical death, estimate the worth of their deeds, and realize all that their hands have wrought. I swear by the Day Star that shineth above the horizon of Divine power! They that are the followers of the one true God shall, the moment they depart out of this life, experience such joy and gladness as would be impossible to describe, while they that live in error shall be seized with such fear and trembling, and shall be filled with such consternation, as nothing can exceed. Well is it with him that hath quaffed the choice and incorruptible wine of faith through the gracious favor and the manifold bounties of Him Who is the Lord of all Faiths.

Abdul Baha: You will retain your individuality and will not be swallowed up in one vast spirit. Concerning the condition of the human soul after its ascension from the material world: the essence of the human soul is clarified from material substances and purified from the embodiment of physical things. It is exclusively luminous; it has no body; it is a dazzling pencil of light; it is a celestial orb of brightness.

Abdul Baha: As the child in the womb does not yet know the use of its members, it does not know what its eyes are for, neither its nose, nor ears, nor tongue—so also it is with the soul on earth. It cannot understand here the uses and powers of its spiritual gifts, but directly it enters the eternal kingdom, it will become clearly apparent.

Abdul Baha: In the matrix of the mother we were the recipients of endowments and blessings of God, yet these were as nothing compared to the powers and graces bestowed upon us after birth into this human world. Likewise if we are born from the matrix of this physical and phenomenal environment into the freedom and loftiness of the life and vision spiritual, we shall consider this mortal existence and its blessings as worthless by comparison.

Abdul Baha: Just as man has been physically born into this world, he may be reborn from the realm and matrix of nature, for the realm of nature is a condition of animalism, darkness and defect. In this second birth he attains the world of the Kingdom. There he witnesses and realizes that the world of nature is a world of gloom, whereas the Kingdom is a world of radiance; the world of nature is a world of defects, the Kingdom is a realm of perfection; the world of nature is a world without enlightenment, the Kingdom of spiritual humanity is a heaven of illumination. Great discoveries and revelations are now possible for him; he has attained the reality of perception; his circle of understanding is illimitably widened; he views the realities of creation, comprehends the divine bounties and unseals the mystery of phenomena. This is the station which Christ has interpreted as the second birth. He says that just as ye were physically born from the mother into this world, ye must be born again from the mother world of nature into the life of the divine Kingdom.

Abdul Baha: This world is not much of a place for the realization of truth. This world is but the womb of the world of reality. Twins in the matrix may even embrace each other without knowing what they do. They are in darkness and cannot know their relationship to their mother who nourishes them, or their father who cares for them and provides for them. However, when they are born out of the world of darkness and live in this world, they realize each other and become assured that they have a father and a mother. So will you become assured when you enter the world of light and then you will realize how great is my fatherhood for you.

Abdul Baha: For the Kingdom of God is sanctified from time and place; it is another world and another universe. But the holy souls are promised the gift of intercession. And know thou for a certainty, that in the divine worlds, the spiritual beloved ones (believers) will recognize each other, and will seek union (with each other), but a spiritual union. Likewise, a love that one may have entertained for any one will not be forgotten in the world of the Kingdom. Likewise, thou wilt not forget (there) the life that thou hast had in the material world.

Abdul Baha: It is even possible that the condition of those who have died in sin and unbelief may become changed—that is to say, they may become the object of pardon through the bounty of God, not through His justice—for bounty is giving without desert, and justice is giving what is deserved. As we have power to pray for these souls here, so likewise we shall possess the same power in the other world, which is the Kingdom of God. Are not all the people in that world the creatures of God? Therefore, in that world also they can make progress. As here they can receive light by their supplications, there also they can plead for forgiveness and receive light through entreaties and supplications. Thus as souls in this world, through the help of the supplications, the entreaties and the prayers of the holy ones, can acquire development, so is it the same after death. Through their own prayers and supplications they can also progress, more especially when they are the object of the intercession of the Holy Manifestations.

Shoghi Effendi: Concerning your question whether a soul can receive knowledge of the Truth in the world beyond: Such a knowledge is surely possible, and it is a sign of the loving mercy of the Almighty. We can, through our prayers, help every soul to gradually attain this high station, even if it has failed to reach it in this world. The progress of the soul does not come to an end with death. It rather starts along a new line. Bahá'u'lláh teaches that great and far-reaching possibilities await the soul in the other world. Spiritual progress in that realm is infinite, and no man, while on earth, can visualize its full power and extent.

Shoghi Effendi: No man can "obtain everlasting life" in the full sense of the term, except through acknowledging the Manifestation of God, in this age, Bahá'u'lláh. If he doesn't do it in this world he will have a chance to progress in the next one.

Shoghi effendi: The possibility of securing union with his beloved in the next world is one which the Bahá’í Teachings are quite clear about. According to Bahá’u’lláh the soul retains its individuality and consciousness after death, and is able to commune with other souls. This communion, however, is purely spiritual in character, and is conditioned upon the disinterested and selfless love of the individuals for each other.

UHJ: Only God can judge another soul. As individuals, we are not in a position to truly know the spiritual condition of another person nor are we informed of the effort they are making to fight their spiritual battles.

Near Death Experiences A Study by Ian Currie Dr Moody Astonishingly one in five people report an out of body experience.

Common Features: Strange sound; Peace and Painlessness; Great Joy; Out-of-Body Experience; The Tunnel; Rising Rapidly into the Heavens; People of Light; The Being of Light; Life Review; Reluctance to return.

The Tibetan Book of the Dead: a gleaming bright light will shine white from the heart of God with such power that you hardly dare to look into it...and still you won't be able to stare your eyes away from it!

20 percent of children who have experienced NDE attempt suicide. They want so much to return to the experience they had. This correlates perfectly with Baha’u’llah’s statement that if we saw the next world even through the eye of a needle we would take our own lives in our desire to be there.

Dreams and Visions Baha’u’llah: Behold how the thing which thou hast seen in thy dream is, after a considerable lapse of time, fully realized. Had the world in which thou didst find thyself in thy dream been identical with the world in which thou livest, it would have been necessary for the event occurring in that dream to have transpired in this world at the very moment of its occurrence. Were it so, you yourself would have borne witness unto it. This being not the case, however, it must necessarily follow that the world in which thou livest is different and apart from that which thou hast experienced in thy dream. This latter world hath neither beginning nor end. It would be true if thou wert to contend that this same world is, as decreed by the All-Glorious and Almighty God, within thy proper self and is wrapped up within thee. It would equally be true to maintain that thy spirit, having transcended the limitations of sleep and having stripped itself of all earthly attachment, hath, by the act of God, been made to traverse a realm which lieth hidden in the innermost reality of this world

John Lennons statement of music and words coming through him in a state of bliss. Albert Einsteins statement concerning the reality of his famouse theories coming to him in a state of dream/vision

Baha’u’llah’s Statements on the phenomenon of the Dream.

Can we return: Reincarnation Baha’u’llah speaks of return in Kitab-i-Iqan Page101 No transmigration of the soul…a rose returns but it is the fragrance that returns rather than the actual essence…for it is another Rose. Messnegers of God Return in the sense that their inner Reality is The Word of God…yet their outer reality is as another Human Being…which is why Jesus says dont worship me for I am but a man like you…

Do the math...If we all reincarnated one of two things would happen...either the worlds population would stay as one figure...or if new souls were also created then the Population would almost double.

Another argument: Those in favour of Reincarnation state the the soul chooses its next life in the world Below. However, given the numerous descriptions of NDEs and the perfect Joy of the Next World...and given Baha'u'llah's statement that if we were to see the glory of that World through the eye of a needle, we would take our own life in our eagerness to be there...who would then choose to come back? Isn't it rather like a baby choosing to go back to its mothers womb after birth.

A mother who loses a child at say the age of 5...if she then gives birth to another child would she ever really think that the second child is the actual return identically of the first child?

The Big Debate: Is there life after Death

The Parable of the Twins In a mother’s womb were two babies.  The first baby asked the other:  “Do you believe in life after delivery?” The second baby replied, “Why, of course. There has to be something after delivery.  Maybe we are here to prepare ourselves for what we will be later.” “Nonsense,” said the first. “There is no life after delivery.  What would that life be?” “I don’t know, but there will be more light than here.  Maybe we will walk with our legs and eat from our mouths.” The doubting baby laughed. “This is absurd!  Walking is impossible.  And eat with our mouths?  Ridiculous.  The umbilical cord supplies nutrition.  Life after delivery is to be excluded.  The umbilical cord is too short.” The second baby held his ground. “I think there is something and maybe it’s different than it is here.” The first baby replied, “No one has ever come back from there.  Delivery is the end of life, and in the after-delivery it is nothing but darkness and anxiety and it takes us nowhere.” “Well, I don’t know,” said the twin, “but certainly we will see mother and she will take care of us.” “Mother?” The first baby guffawed. “You believe in mother?  Where is she now?” The second baby calmly and patiently tried to explain. “She is all around us.  It is in her that we live. Without her there would not be this world.” “Ha. I don’t see her, so it’s only logical that she doesn’t exist.”   To which the other replied, “Sometimes when you’re in silence you can hear her, you can perceive her.  I believe there is a reality after delivery and we are here to prepare ourselves for that reality when it comes….”

On the back of a Bikers Jacket: Is there life after death?  Touch my daughter and you'll find out.

Bahai Burial


DNA engineering to create better or immortal Human Beings…so an Individual becomes God-like (NONSENSE)  Combining technology with Humanity. Creating a Computer to rival the Brain and merging this with the Human Body.

An interesting part of this documentary available on FOTV Documentaries states that we thought that the infinitely small had no limit..however of you continue to cut a piece of string you reach a Quantum state where upon if you make the Final Cut the pieces all of a sudden are everywhere…in other words they have lost the e ability to be in any one position. This scientifically proves that they are everywhere at the same point in time. Like information or software. Scientists say that this proves the existence of an eternal place less realm that is infinite. It also shows us that this physical reality is a SHADOW or subset of the eternal reality. So perhaps the truth is we already live in a world that is controlled by a greater force…i.e. the Kingdom of God the Abha Kingdom. This is out Workshop we do not die. we just become everywhere.

To Be Continued...